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America’s Most Vicious Gang

MS-13 is spreading senseless violence to cities and suburbs across the country.

By Sam Dealey from Reader's Digest | January 2006

For the Ivano family, the school day began like any other. It was a Tuesday morning in December, just days before the Christmas break, and Abraham was fighting his way through the Los Angeles traffic to his children’s schools. He made good time, and after dropping off his daughter, Shamrim, Abraham and his son, Walentin, had a moment to spare. Over coffee at Starbucks, they talked basketball for a while, and then discussed a computer engineering course at a local college that Walentin hoped to take. Abraham and his wife had done the math and thought the family could afford it; he promised to take Walentin that Friday to learn more about the program. Then Abraham dropped his son off at the magnet high school he attended.

'Isabella' talks about life inside MS-13 on a rooftop in Central Los Angeles. Photo by Darcy Padilla'Isabella' talks about life inside MS-13 on a rooftop in Central Los Angeles.

He Never Made It Home
Walentin never made it home that night. As he and a friend lunched at a local Chinese restaurant, a tough group of Latino boys and girls approached. They accused the friends of belonging to a rival gang and, when Walentin denied it, set upon the two. As Walentin pleaded with them to stop, the gang members beat him viciously and crashed a chair onto his head. Then, as quickly as it began, it was over. The gang members fled, and a confused Walentin stooped to gather up his spilled food, needlessly apologizing to the other patrons for the commotion.

That’s when one of his attackers returned. “He pulled the gun out of his pocket and held it toward my son’s forehead,” recounts Suzi Ivano, Walentin’s mother. Her dark eyes fight to hold back the tears, and her hands thumb listlessly at the mementos of her son’s childhood spread on a table before her — commendations for perfect attendance and superb grades, family pictures of a birthday, Walentin’s favorite stuffed Spider-Man toy. “He said ‘Mara Salvatrucha,’ and just shot Walentin,” she finally says. The bullet tore through her child’s neck and lodged in his spinal cord. Walentin lived for another 18 months as a quadriplegic before finally succumbing to his wounds.

No Isolated Act of Violence
Walentin Ivano’s murder was no isolated act of brutality. It was the handiwork of one of the most virulent street gangs in America’s history. La Mara Salvatrucha, or MS-13, has rapidly expanded from L.A., its U.S. birthplace, into more than 30 states across the country. With at least 10,000 members today, the gang’s reach goes well beyond its inner-city roots into middle-class suburban neighborhoods and schools. And that has law enforcement, community leaders and parents struggling to find ways to cope with an organization that the FBI considers its “top priority among criminal gangs.”

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Your Comments

  • Anonymous

    These gangs are funded by the drug war.  Why not eliminate their funding and make them go away?  End the drug war now!  It’s about time we started to take back our communities from the criminals.

  • Piss

    Eliminate their funding?. The government makes too much off these gangs, drugs and numerous other illegal activities to stop them. 

  • Piss

    Eliminate their funding?. The government makes too much off these gangs, drugs and numerous other illegal activities to stop them. 

  • Anonymous

    To author Sam Dealey -

    Thank you for the terrific article.

    But for the record, this isn’t the most “vicious” gang in America, although they are truly despicable.

    The worst “gang” in our nation is the appalling volume of misbehaving & criminal physicians, who number well over 200,000* and who in fact injure and kill 400+ innocent citizens per day.

    There is a book out called “Americas Dumbest Doctors” and although there is plenty of humor in its pages, the underlying reality is truly horrible.

    A criminal in a lab coat can do a remarkable amount of damage befor he – or she – is finally caught.

  • Geojon2000

    MS-13 is the worst gang on the streets…as far as anchorage,ak. In my opinion…suspend individule freedoms concerning known gang members and instead of jailing them…give them thier own medicine…shoot them in the head…any other way is cuddleing…only a COWARD would use a gun in a fight or attack…in Russia…during communisim…they just simply shot ‘em…in China…they do the same…do it here…see how fast these scumbags disappear.

  • Geojon2000

    MS-13 is the worst gang on the streets…as far as anchorage,ak. In my opinion…suspend individule freedoms concerning known gang members and instead of jailing them…give them thier own medicine…shoot them in the head…any other way is cuddleing…only a COWARD would use a gun in a fight or attack…in Russia…during communisim…they just simply shot ‘em…in China…they do the same…do it here…see how fast these scumbags disappear.

  • The Concerned Masses

    From the article:
    The beginnings of MS-13 date from the 1980s, when more than a million
    Salvadoran refugees fled their war-wracked homeland for safe haven in
    the United States. Many settled in the barrios of Los Angeles, where
    they were preyed upon by the city’s turf-conscious Mexican and black
    gangs. The young immigrants banded together for protection. Armed with
    machetes and guns, their violent methods quickly established them as the
    city’s dominant gang. Since then, MS-13 has opened its ranks to
    Hispanics of all origins, and branched out into organized rackets such
    as car chopping, immigrant smuggling (mainly bringing Mexicans into the
    United States) and drug dealing.

    Our first mistake is constantly allowing “refugees” to flood in to our country. The second is not dealing with these, less than human, animals quickly and decisively. Just send out hit squads and begin eliminating them. We as US citizens demand our safety! No more liberal justice and worthless deportations. Execute them!

  • Carlos Mcgee66

    I’m far from prejudice but this catch 22 is something else we can’t get away with this crap in there countries, and if we have to defend ourselves and kill one of these fools we face life in prison but they just get deported that is some bull. I mean stop letting these pregnant women come over here and have there babies making them american and creating havoc on our streets. I always here about blacks on welfare and I just think there are more illegals on welfare and I mean illegal whatever no certain race. The violence that you heard may shock you but I see it all the time and put down all the blacks you want but pay attention who is in the suburbs doing the crimes. The weed houses the welfare fraud the meth transporting human smuggling and senseless killings. Blacks aint off the hook but we have been outnumbered on crime a long time ago and when we did the most crime we recieved chicken feed athletes pay riches no wealth. so i’m just saying you have all these illegals some in high places helping others of there kind but they good because stooping a black man for smoking some weed has become more important than stopping that illegal with a car made of meth or weed or whatever. Anyway crime is crime I understand but illegals committing crime is just out of control especially when americans die and get treated like crap in there countries lets be treated equal do to them what they would do to us whatever that may be.

  • Anonymous

    This gang grew out of the 1980s civil war in El Salvador – Right Wing Conservatives in El Salvador impilemented “Death Squads” against these criminals/Marxists – Death Squads are effective – so the gangs/Marxists prefer to move to LA, then to Salt Lake City where there are not (yet) any death squads.

  • Anonymous

    This gang grew out of the 1980s civil war in El Salvador – Right Wing Conservatives in El Salvador impilemented “Death Squads” against these criminals/Marxists – Death Squads are effective – so the gangs/Marxists prefer to move to LA, then to Salt Lake City where there are not (yet) any death squads.

  • Anonymous

    This gang grew out of the 1980s civil war in El Salvador – Right Wing Conservatives in El Salvador impilemented “Death Squads” against these criminals/Marxists – Death Squads are effective – so the gangs/Marxists prefer to move to LA, then to Salt Lake City where there are not (yet) any death squads.

  • Anonymous

    This gang grew out of the 1980s civil war in El Salvador – Right Wing Conservatives in El Salvador impilemented “Death Squads” against these criminals/Marxists – Death Squads are effective – so the gangs/Marxists prefer to move to LA, then to Salt Lake City where there are not (yet) any death squads.

  • Anonymous

    This gang grew out of the 1980s civil war in El Salvador – Right Wing Conservatives in El Salvador impilemented “Death Squads” against these criminals/Marxists – Death Squads are effective – so the gangs/Marxists prefer to move to LA, then to Salt Lake City where there are not (yet) any death squads.

  • Anonymous

    This gang grew out of the 1980s civil war in El Salvador – Right Wing Conservatives in El Salvador impilemented “Death Squads” against these criminals/Marxists – Death Squads are effective – so the gangs/Marxists prefer to move to LA, then to Salt Lake City where there are not (yet) any death squads.

  • Anonymous

    This gang grew out of the 1980s civil war in El Salvador – Right Wing Conservatives in El Salvador impilemented “Death Squads” against these criminals/Marxists – Death Squads are effective – so the gangs/Marxists prefer to move to LA, then to Salt Lake City where there are not (yet) any death squads.

  • Picklesandpeppers

    I couldn’t agree more!

  • Zro Castillo

    da*m

  • Zro Castillo

    ignorant.

  • Mdw1

    Uh-huh. End the drug war and all of a sudden these animals will become choir boys. What sheer idiocy. The cops and the feds know who these cowardly scum are…but it’s not PC to arrest them and throw them into prison where they belong for the rest of their squalid lives. Doing so would be “racist” and, in the meantime, people get butchered and the streets of L.A. continue to be war zones. I live in L.A. and I know. Viva La Raza!

  • Mdw1

    Uh-huh. End the drug war and all of a sudden these animals will become choir boys. What sheer idiocy. The cops and the feds know who these cowardly scum are…but it’s not PC to arrest them and throw them into prison where they belong for the rest of their squalid lives. Doing so would be “racist” and, in the meantime, people get butchered and the streets of L.A. continue to be war zones. I live in L.A. and I know. Viva La Raza!

  • Joethegorilla

    smart. Act like dogs get shot like dogs.

  • Anonymous

    Imagine this gang in the U.S started in extremly liberal,no morals,no nuts,California…The place is bankrupt…The jails are full of illeagles and MS-13 people…They recrute 12 and 13 year olds around school yards…They murder,rape and intimidate…They are terrorists amongst us…They threatin withen our boarders…The constitution says to protect from all enemys both foreign and domestic…Wead these sociopaths out any way we can…

  • Keeldem

    true. weknow who they are,sojust gomout an dhunt them down like the animals that they are. kill them. one by one.

  • Guest

    Yes it is unbelievably funny that stuff like marijuana is involved ;-) What a monster have the puritans built. However, legalizing this in the future or changing the laws will equal cutting at least one of the two hands the gangs have available.

  • Everettdartanian

    you keep saying black black black like you ero s do no crime or do drugs its proof more of you ero s are on aid than blacks i live aroud a mixed comm and their s more of you ero s on drugs doing crimes on aid than anyone eles look around befor you talk    like you ero s are saints ha ha

  • Everettdartanian

    you keep saying black black black like you ero s do no crime or do drugs its proof more of you ero s are on aid than blacks i live aroud a mixed comm and their s more of you ero s on drugs doing crimes on aid than anyone eles look around befor you talk    like you ero s are saints ha ha

  • Kill All Gang Members

    don’t kill them one by one. just make them dig their own graves and shoot them all or bury them alive in one massive grave. no need to label.

  • Dan

    EXACTLY what I was thinking when I read this article.  The staff at Stanford left my child disabled, and all they can tell me now is they have more information about it but can’t let me read it because it’s “confidential”.  In other words, they’re hiding incompetence with their legal staff for financial reasons.  PatricParamedic, you’re absolutely right.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FW7DSBQLP23N7SVCFY72ZWKOVE Iza Koon

    The BEST REASON to SHOOT ANY SPICCK WALKING the STREETS!!!!!

    VIVA HONKEY—-DEATH to SPICCKS!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FW7DSBQLP23N7SVCFY72ZWKOVE Iza Koon

    OLIVER NORTH ‘S DOING !!!!!

    AMERIKAN HERO !!!!!!

  • Ozwawa

    Any body else like to be allowed to carry a sidearm?

  • Ozwawa

    Any body else like to be allowed to carry a sidearm?

  • dan

    lol

  • Rubysorto23

    It’s not as easy as you think. There is a plethora of them. People in El Salvador don’t even go outside of their homes. Their curfews are 6 p.m. These people are terrorizing not just The United States, but several other countries. You can’t just say “execute them,” without really doing the proper research, you can’t eliminate them. They’re a plague! They’ve killed many family members. Some of them being mine. What I wouldn’t give to have them all eliminated. But it’s just not that easy. It just isn’t.

  • Byte_my_hdd

    Iza…all that comes to mind is “idiot”

  • Pinnacle1971

     Its true – the so called Drug War is Not Helping it is actually creating bigger and better opportunity foir organzed crime – gangs (duh!)There have been so many documentories/movies/stories/diarys, etc. etc. on gangs and booze or drugs – the one common denominator is that they (the gangs!!!!) never want prohibition (whether booze or drugs) to end – so ends profitability when common sense prevails (the ones who are afraid that we will become this drug crazed, sodimizing, hallucinating, lazy unproductive stupid society are living in a very narrow, highly biased world of paranoia (and ignorance). First it is all very Drawinian (in its entirety) and second but most importantly it is a patent Lie by the real money makers (owners of very expensive tax payer paid hotels that need to stay filled to capacity and beyond  - aka Prisons!!!!!) People don’t be stupid – we will not self destruct with something that has been at/in the core of our being since to dawn – that is drugs!!! (I hate to sound like a drug monger – I am not – I am a common sense person who has a lot of faith in freedom (Freedom!!!!!)It is supply and demand (simple as that) the demand will never die so why are we creating an even more lucrative enterprise for gangs (is very perplexing) – anyway eliminate the taboo and about 90% of this will go away (just like the repeal of Prohibition – so many people died or were imprisoned over alcohol offenses – (it really is/was very very sad) – Same for all the marijuana users etc that are in prison (right now). Me thinks me smell conspiracy (privatization of prisons and enforcement of bad law and brainwashing every gullible police officer and citizen with (archaic laws) and laughable scientific understandingAnyway Drug War or Profit War or War on Intellect – pick your poison

  • Anonymous

    grow up and write when you become an adult.dln

  • Greenjules7

    Find out who they are and kill them and bury them all together.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Randolph-Lee/1371741417 Randolph Lee

    No, they won’t become choir boys, but without the profits from the black market, they won’t be able to afford guns, and they won’t be able to recruit new members.  

    Beyond that, if we would start paying attention to what our government does in its ill-advised foreign adventures, as our founding fathers warned us to avoid, we wouldn’t have the blow back falling on our citizenry.  

    Here’s how the scam works: multinational corporations suborn our federal government to implement theft of a 3rd world country’s resources.  Then when the citizens of that country get righteously upset at the theft, they are terrorized into submission by our government and military.  Understandably they have grudge against the US, but who gets to feel the brunt of that anger?  The CEOs of the pillaging multinationals?  Not bloody likely!  

    No, the lower and lower middle classes of the US pay the price for the misdeeds of those at the highest levels of government and business.  This has been going on for over 100 years, and needs to stop.  Read Smedley Butler if you don’t believe me.  But it won’t.  The citizens of the US are too brainwashed with religion and astroturfed liberal vs. conservative nonsense to oppose the real problems.

    Sorry to bash your fantasy world, but that’s the truth of the matter.

  • Jenna

    A good way to end this is to lock all gang members in a big room and give them each a loaded gun – problem solved–

  • Anonymous

    and do the liberals that want these vermin allowed to stay in MY Country take credit for inflicting these low life cowardly beasts?

  • Wtkelly1984

    This gang is illegals, if the ins would do its job and rid the country of them this gang would disappear.

  • Frankwhite

    I have a simple answer and I guarantee no one will like it. But it will stop the violence and save lives. Treat them like the cancer they are. Arrest as many of them as possible and instead of deporting them, take them to a “holding/deportation” facility. Fire up the cyanide gas and kill them all. Then feed the bodies into incinerators. Yes it is the nazi solution and it may be horrific, but I bet if you do this for a couple of months. ALL gang problems will go away immediately.  They wont go back to their home countries and become stronger, they wont kill innocent teens, they wont rape innocent women, they wont kill store owners for fun.  They are cancer and you must get the cancer out, before it destroys the entire public body. 

  • Typical BS

    You’re an idiot.  Why would anyone listen to your ridiculous conspiracy theories.

  • Hghgfhhgf

    Not surprised that it is a Spic gang

  • Sharry Council

    Not worried about them setting foot in east Detroit,the whole community will shut them down,they’ll stand out like a palm tree trying to grow in mud.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/24SJK44IYETDRQUDYA5TRXZMPE rich

    Carry a gun …legal or not….CARRY

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Buddy-Green/100002090624314 Buddy Green

    MS-13 should be designated a terrorist organization and its members sent to cuba for permanent incarceration or simply put down like a sick puppy.

  • Reddoggy129

    if we sent all the mexicans back to mexico,and all thje africans back to africa,heck,America would bne a much safer and nicer place for Americans!

  • 26patrols

    I am OK with killing every gang member we can find.  Forget the drug war.  Kill them all.  Why do I need a person on my earth who thinks its OK to walk up and shoot someone because they think he is in a rival gang?  Don’t need them.

  • Anonymous

    Round up every single one of these miscreants, male and female, bring all of our troops home from Afghanistan and send these poor excuses for human beings in their place.  If they make it out alive, ok, if they don’t nothing will be lost.

  • Snowprincess

     To Author Patric Paramedic,

    One issue has nothing to do with the other.

  • Snowprincess

     To Author Patric Paramedic,

    One issue has nothing to do with the other.

  • Anonymous

    The gangs exist because liberals want them to.    It’s simple–if they didn’t and capital punishment was not undermined (and these false notions of constant rehabilitation at the taxpayer and victim’s expense) ….

    …then quicker death sentences on gang members might be a better deterrent than the jail time they use now?   How’s that working?

  • MEA

    It is a hurting thing when children feal the need to belong.  They need to know that they are loved.  Belong to gang Jesus Christ.  Make somethjing of yourselves and love who you are.  See when it all goes down and you go to prison, your homees won’t be there. And prison ain’t all that is crackked up to be-they have rules and regulations-and u will follow them or get broke down.

  • ctcsme

    MS-13? Sounds like a feminine hygene product.  Mexico good for tacos, tequlia and putas.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JXPRHOP6ZU3O5NAC64THQKJBO4 Happy Chimpy

    P  U   S  S   I  E  S !

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_64NPIHCRWKSDXJ5VUALPAGFIVM Mike

    The president needs to very quietly declare MS-13 a “clear and present danger” to the safety and security of the people of the United States. This would allow military special operations forces to deal with them and they don’t carry handcuffs. This is highly unlikely in the very liberal country in which we live where someones rights might be violated and the safety and lives of innocent people comes in a distant second.

  • Anonymous

    These are the people the current administration wants to make “citizens” so they can vote and can take more in freebies from the systems…..they ought to be rounded up, put in jail, and one by one investigated — if they are found to be involved in anything illegal then they should be prosecuted;  if guilty a good long perioed in a sweltering camp in the California desert would do just fine.

  • white tiger

    Bless your little heart, daveyboy! What you want is every irresponsible in the country wandering around loaded and fit for nothing. Driving when they can’t. Loafing; not working. Ruining their health and we get to pay for their medical needs. Consuming; not producing. Without inhibitions; doing whatever they fell like doing- probably to your wife and daughter.Go smoke, snort, shoot your dope and kill yourself; But don’t try to run your doper game on the rest of us. You’re a Bozo! Bozo on!

  • Des Byrne

    Eliminate them is the answer,these gangs are the lowest form of life,If the police can’t control them and it looks like they can’t.Do what we did in vietnam,take them out for a halo ride over the ocean but don’t bring them back.
    All this talk of taking back our communities from these drug gangs is crap !!drugs are’nt the reason for these sub life forms,it’s the way they are bread and being vicious is something they love .When animals have rogue elements amongst them they take them out.And don’t tell me that in taking them out is decending to animal levels,that statement alone is unjust to the animal kingdom..

  • Anonymous

    Of course, the government’s answer to all of this will be to further restrict the second amendment rights of law biding citizens. Wherever these rabid dogs exist, honest people should have concealed carry permits. Let’s see how tough they are when outnumbered by the good folk 10-1 or  20 -1.

  • Anonymous

    Of course, the government’s answer to all of this will be to further restrict the second amendment rights of law biding citizens. Wherever these rabid dogs exist, honest people should have concealed carry permits. Let’s see how tough they are when outnumbered by the good folk 10-1 or  20 -1.

  • Jalsdjfow

    If you have a better solution, please let us know . . .

  • Bajd Dofp

    Accidents can happen. There are always some risks to any surgical procedure. Occasionally. there are some very bad outcomes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Faces-Nooks/100002619434095 Faces Nooks

    If we just legalized marijuana, all of these problems would go away…

    Why don’t we just legalize theft, rape and murder?  Then we wouldn’t have to worry about a crime rate.

  • Bb0507

    america’s most vicious gang? the government of course. they will steal your house and everything you own and put you living on the street if you don’t pay their taxes.

  • Guest

    Our military should stop worrying about the unrest in Afghanistan and worry about our streets. It may be more politically popular to work with Foreign Policy. What about the health of our US streets?

  • ACitizen

    Best reason in the world to bring back the death penalty for all violent felony crimes, especially those connected with drugs.  Why should we fund their training camps sometimes called prison.  Time to put the gun to their heads and pull the trigger to eliminate this scum once and for all.  I could care less what the libs and ACLU thinks about this plan, start doing this and within a few years there won’t be enough of them left to cause a stink.  Start with the already over crowded prisons and get rid of those serving life or any sentence over 40 years.  I will pull the switch, inject the needle or put the noose around their necks.  Our worthless legal system promotes crime and protects the criminal more than the victim. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/5FL576QMBNQCUC7I5L7QQRU7RE Steve

    Please someone tell me why these gangs  get support from Mr. Obama and Mr. Holder. Deportation of violent criminals has dropped to 1/3rd from where it was. It was not good before.

  • David

    Can anybody tell me why the US State Department is supplying MS-13 with weapons in Central America? Hillary’s State Department is passing out more weapons to the ZETAS and MS-13 than Holder’s Fast and Furious passed out to the Sinoloa cartel south of Arizona. Now I hear there is or was another gun furnishing operation called “White Paper” and one in Florida that has not been named.

  • David

    Can anybody tell me why the US State Department is supplying MS-13 with weapons in Central America? Hillary’s State Department is passing out more weapons to the ZETAS and MS-13 than Holder’s Fast and Furious passed out to the Sinoloa cartel south of Arizona. Now I hear there is or was another gun furnishing operation called “White Paper” and one in Florida that has not been named.

  • Anonymous

    Yes I will tell you they will be obamas secret police when he shuts down the mil. in america and invokes martial law sends the congress home and we have no hope of  left for the united states of AMERICA, The new name might be the united islaamic nation of america or somthing close might even have obamas name in it and holder will be the HNIC of security untill he can replace him with one of his muslim BH brothers,that is why they are passing out high tec weapons to these murders, and now you know.

  • Anonymous

    Yes I will tell you they will be obamas secret police when he shuts down the mil. in america and invokes martial law sends the congress home and we have no hope of  left for the united states of AMERICA, The new name might be the united islaamic nation of america or somthing close might even have obamas name in it and holder will be the HNIC of security untill he can replace him with one of his muslim BH brothers,that is why they are passing out high tec weapons to these murders, and now you know.

  • mike austin

    Forget deer, elk and bear.  Get a hunting license for these animals.  The problem goes away and the Gov’t makes money.

  • Lahaloo

    I don’t think other countries would tolerate these violent gang criminals.  Too bad the police go after innocent people, because that is easier and less chance of the policeman getting in harms way.  It’s a lot safer to give an old man or old lady a speeding ticket for going over 5 miles above the speed limit.  You know the old person won’t fight back….

  • Cdaddy11

    Daveholio you said it man….  This isn’t even a war on drugs because wars end, this will never end we will keep butting our heads against a brick wall. 

  • fred37ify

    America’s most vicious and destructive gang is the DNC  !  End of story !

  • toller

    Puritans? You mean the settlers at Plymouth long ago?

  • toller

    Puritans? You mean the settlers at Plymouth long ago?

  • Jerryharmon

    lolo Daveholio,, I can’t help but be amused at how unimformed some people are. WELLL That wont work because the smoke and mirrors blown up your A(*& by the government that the government brings more drugs into America than any yyy cartel. The left wing nutjobs would moan piss and whine if law enforcement started taking them out,, soooooooooooooooooooo whats next

  • Marcog91

    Bring our boys ( and gals) back from Iraq and Afganistan and let them patrol the streets of LA and set these parasits straight on some good old american justice!

  • Agorton

    Yes let’s have more potheads running around,killing ,robbing and beating people so they can go to walmarts to buy their pot, then make Crack legal, then Cocaine,then heroine, that will cut down on the drug dealers, BULLCRAP,BRAINLESS

  • DougW

     Um, they were puritans, but that’s a generic term used to refer to self-righteous fundamentalist Christians.

  • DougW

     Um, they were puritans, but that’s a generic term used to refer to self-righteous fundamentalist Christians.

  • Thatgeorgeguy

    I think the real most dangerous “gangs” in the us is the bloated prison industry and the public safety leeches that eat up 2/3 of all taxation with their pensions and budgets. The Cult of Public Safety is the real gang. They destroy economies like upstate NY driving taxes through the roof and  running off businesses and expect “respect” for their war on citizens and accusing anyone who gets in their greedy path.

    Be careful Readers Digest readers!! There’s “gangs” out there alright!

  • Pattypouter

    dont you know, drugs are already legal! just go see your doctor!

  • Anonymous

    I read that several times and can’t understand what you’re trying to say.  Perhaps you can restate that in coherent English?

    What am I uninformed about?  I presume you support the Drug War?  You seriously want us to keep pouring hundreds of billions of tax dollars annually into a bottomless pit (including funneling immense quantities of cash out of the US to foreign drug cartels, which they use to buy guns, bribe officials, hire new members and spread their influence) to fight a war that slaughters innocents by the thousands, that cannot be won and will continue forever, that achieves no positive results, yet spreads violence, death, corruption and misery Worldwide?  I think there are better uses for our public funds.  Why not fund schools and other important services instead?  The cartels are now spreading to US cities.  As long as the Drug War continues it’s only a matter of time until they set up shop in yours!

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    Jerryharmon (unregistered) wrote, in response to Daveholio:
    lolo Daveholio,, I can’t help but be amused at how unimformed some people are. WELLL That wont work because the smoke and mirrors blown up your A(*& by the government that the government brings more drugs into America than any yyy cartel. The left wing nutjobs would moan piss and whine if law enforcement started taking them out,, soooooooooooooooooooo whats next Link to comment

  • http://twitter.com/DynamoDale Big D

    Need to start shooting every gang member there are in this country!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JO3ZJS2BGAUP3ZRHBCHUBMXT6Y Jawal Baxter

    Well, I have a feeling  most of these monsters did not come into our nation legally. Most of the MS 13 members are not even migrants looking for work; they are killers looking for a head count. As for the stupid remark about legalizing drugs let me ask you this: Are you willing to just transfer money to politicans who kill and dehumanize via-a-via their policies because that is exactly what would happen if drugs were legalized.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JO3ZJS2BGAUP3ZRHBCHUBMXT6Y Jawal Baxter

    So people who happen to disagree with you are your worst enemy? What type of society do you want? Let’s legalize all drugs, prostitution, euthanasia and get it out of the way. Will that eliminate poverty, suffering or disease? We know there hideous examples of people who claimed to be Christians that have left a very bad stain on human history but it cuts both ways; the 60 million people killed by Mao, the 70 million killed by the soviet era were motivated by governments that did not believe the in the existance of God–that is not even arguable. Sir, I do not hate you because you disagree with me over spiritual issues however your generalizations have serious implications. Remove Christian morality out of the way as you would like:  Remember, the Communist era where God was removed from society did not change the constant’s of human nature; What medicine for greed, selfishness, lust and a lack of self control can you give? You might live to see what you want: An American society where Christianity is crushed and reduced to having no influence at all but when you need mercy where will you get it? When you need help will your fellow hedonists give it to you or follow your Darwinian creed: The weak must die. When you start to desire meaning, relationships and love and you will—-even the most strident of the athiest crusaders have admitted to that desire–you will have no where to turn. Disagreement is not hatred–if you claim to be as tolerant as you say you are then you would not lash out the way you do.

  • Scott

    Sorry, that won’t turn them into boyscouts. You take them out with superior firepower!

  • Bpbredly

    Potheads killing people?? Has a pot head ever killed anyone? That is crazy talk.

  • Sixfoottoo

    legalize drugs and these guys have no more power except smuggling mexicans into the country..

  • RubyTuesday

    I find it interesting all this crap started thanks to illegal immigrants.  Hispanics, blacks…the article was very clear on this.

  • chena

    …one solution….snipers….takle the littel bastards OUT….

  • chena

    …one solution….snipers….takle the littel bastards OUT….

  • chena

    …one solution….snipers….takle the littel bastards OUT….

  • Anonymous

    Notice the date, January, 2006…

    before PC silenced our news media and our citizens,
     
    before protecting illegal aliens was more important than protecting American citizens,

    before LaRaza, LULAC, SPLC, etc etc were funded by Soros and had more power than the people,
     
    before Mexico blamed America for their own decay and lack of moral responsibility,
     
    before Obama, Holder, Solis, Munoz, and his band of thugs decided that illegal aliens were the Democratic Party’s only hope..
    .
    before my life was nearly destroyed by illegal aliens and my government failure to perform their sworn duty to protect our borders and our citizens…on and on…

    before Houston lost six dedicated Police Officer, murdered by illegal aliens,

    before America, at least our border states, resembled and sounded more Mexico than our beloved country!

    AND before our elected officials lost their back bone, their moral character, and their sole dedication to the well being of our citizens…and it was only a mere six years ago, but it seems a life time ago!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/B6F63QRD25KIPZ5J5I2A3AVYL4 Red

    Holy Habanero, remember, you don’t need ID to vote so vote for Obama and vote often….you stupid brain dead libtards.  Enjoy the fail you have created.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/B6F63QRD25KIPZ5J5I2A3AVYL4 Red

    Like legalizing alcohol made the mafia go away?  Good point chimp, here’s your banana.

  • Bhenning32

    Change the the F–KING LAW and Make it a Felony tio Belong to a Gang. The ones that have already been Convicted of Felonies SHOOT ON SIGHT.Our curerent system doesn`t work and will never wiork because to these Murderers Prison is a Badge of Honor, and the gangs are easily run from Prisons.

  • Anonymous

    What a great analogy!  Today’s situation is identical, isn’t it?  Back then, there was no organized crime (before Prohibition).  The USA was ripe for the picking with tons of untapped criminal opportunities.
    Currently, we have given them something that is far cheaper to produce, with profit margins that are orders of magnitude higher, and much simpler to smuggle, distribute and get away with.  If you think the drug gangs can shift their criminal activities totally from drugs to other crimes and still maintain even a fraction of their current income or size, you are SERIOUSLY deluded.  Don’t forget that any other criminal enterprise today that you can name ALREADY has OTHER criminals involved that these newly-jobless drug gangs are going to have to compete with.  How exactly do you imagine they will continue to profit hundreds of billions per year?
    You, Sir, are the chimp, but you didn’t come close to earning a banana!

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    Red wrote, in response to Daveholio:
    Like legalizing alcohol made the mafia go away?  Good point chimp, here’s your banana. Link to comment

  • Sgtrock965

    Change the laws governing gang membership.  Membership should net the person a minimum of 20 years, and if an alien (legal or illegal) deport them afterwards.  Hopefully, incarceration and age would slow them down enough to fall out of gang activity.

    I would like to say shoot them on sight, but that would be illegal.  Never the less, gang members are parasites, scum, dregs of the earth, and far worse.  There is no redeeming value in letting any of them be free let along alive, but the US Constitution says we have be – mores the pity.

  • Amvicrep

    As long as we have the Second Amendment; I am not afraid of these thugs. 

  • seabass

    Just keep those borders open, and continue to push for amnesty. I think if amnesty is ever a reality that the ENTIRE family needs to be investigated, kids included. You have a gang member in your household,  a record of any type, guess what? You all go home to your Country of origin. If you can’t keep your kid under control you will not be a valuable, contributing member of American society. Just another drain. We have a right to be selective about who lives here legally.

  • Anonymous

    truly.  Making pot legal would chill people out.  Plus, pizza companies and snack food manufacturers would make 3x the money they do now.

  • Johnnypneumonic

    soo lets go can hunting

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2UAC7XXEPJJQNN2WP5RF7M53KI ScottB

    One minor problem – exercise second amendment ‘rights’ and police have YOU in the pokey for excessive force, manslaughter, etc.  Cops don’t want you to have a gun, and will use this matter as a means to get you off the streets.  Gang members’s parents of course wail deliciously on TV declaiming oppressive Anglos who slaughtered their little boy/girl who just wanted a better life in America.  And jesus wept…

  • ctcsme

    Thank you Californina for not deporting the illegals who make up this gang. 

  • Anonymous

    Scott’s right. Go ahead and try to protect yourself- see who gets in trouble

  • Anonymous

    Scott’s right. Go ahead and try to protect yourself- see who gets in trouble

  • Mauceri888

    I heartell there no atheists in the foxhole in war, they all pray!

  • tom high

    Obama and his lax immigration policy has allowed millions of illegal’s refuge in the US , 20 million criminals live in our mist, not knowing who they are, what disease’s that might carry, nothing, at a cost of 123 billion a year to tax payers.
    Obama’s only concern is getting votes at all cost , even if it means selling American’s out which he has done when it comes to illegal immigration.
    We have a government agency ICE , I put ICE on my list of do nothing agencies,a waste of tax payers money, here in Georgia ( 475,000) ,illegal immigrants working in the construction industries building Hartsfield/Jackson  International  Airport, county buildings, public schools and ICE knows this and still does nothing, even after a local Fox 5 reporter (Randy Chavis ), reported on this matter.
    Until, we have a president with guts to stand up for US citizens and enforce immigration laws,( and not some back door watered down policies) , from the boarder to Main,St America we will continue to have these immigrant gangs spreading their death,and violence from the border’s to  Main,St America.

  • Satan

    As an american citizen we need to arm ourselves and stop this madness! Shoot these pieces of trash where they stand!! Everyone of them!! This is my country!I don’t care how hard you think you are. A bullet in the brain is all you deserve!!!!

  • Targetguy

    Sit back and wait for GOD to protect us… I don’t think so! The faithful are unable to think outside the box they’ve locked themselves into. We that can relate to other influences other than the “Word of God” are more capable of coming to logical conclusions and solutions based on ALL the information and not just what is taught in Sunday school.

  • Commonsense

    You could of course stop buying their drugs and funding their operations….

  • Ahide

    Not true. refer to the news and ample stories of legalized marijuana. Criminal oragnizations will run them to further fund their criminal organization’s efforts, They launder and/or raise revenue for their gangs.  

  • DTide

    Lets keep on point people. MS-13 are a posing threat to our American fabric. They have the mentality of they can come into this country and intimidate and take away our loved ones. They are the threat and are the bad guys in all of this. It is time to fight back and end them. Not probation, not parole not talking to them about how they are making their victim’s and family members feel, just end them. Lock them up or address them as an enemy of the state.

    They have apparently declared war on our citizens, so we should fight and respond appropriately as we would in a war. Let’s not forget that us citizens have the right to protect ourselves and our loved ones. Are they really stronger than us? Or are they just more willing to resort to violence faster and for smaller insignificant reasons. MS-13 members say they will fight, die and definetly kill for their ideology and gang, who they call family, they would be mistaken to think we would not do the same. Citizens and Law Enfrocement need to be just as willing to respond in turn. One may ask then, “where does it stop?” it stops with them being exterminated or they give up their efforts and go else where.    

  • FGahl

    I generally agree with your thinking, but not totally. Drugs do fund them, but not only drugs fund them. We need to address them, as a whole, all their funding and all of them, not a part of what keeps them going.  

  • Anonymous

    This gang needs to be talen out by our police as soon as possible to let others know this wan’t be tolerated here

  • Josh

    These guys vote for Obama

  • ConcernedCitizen

    Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercionCommon definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war.
    So, 10,000 “gang” member across the U.S. are killing people. Thats funny, cause we are fighting 10,000 other “gang” members in Afghanistan, they are called Tailban.

  • Nvhotshot

    Seems to me these Dbags are domestic terrorists and should have to deal with the full brunt and force of the U.S. military. Let’s call drone strikes on these Dbags. Let’s use .50 cal machine guns on them and clamores.

  • Nvhotshot

    If they want to die for their “cause” we should certainly accommodate them.

  • Mark Russell

    The most vicious gang im America are the people who get up every Sunday morning and go to church.

  • Anon

     were you dropped on your head as a child?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_S7JHY376QTPMJYT3ZX7ZB3ABVU Vic

    We can send the military to other countries and help with their problems. we have names, addresses, photos….it is time to send the military out to pick up these slime balls.

  • RW

    If the 14th ammendment (one of the reconstution ammendments to right the wrongs to former slaves) was properly interpreted or if Congress would pass legislation to exclude children born in the US to illegal immigrant parents (like the countries of Europe and Asia) we could deport all of MS 13 and be done with them.   

  • Johnhdillingerjr

    A good argument for letting illegals (mostly Latino) into this country to destroy it. 

  • Spik patrol

    Big, tough spiks.  “Overpowered a woman and her child in the back seat.”  Wow… must have been some badass homo gang bangers to overpower a lone woman.  I’m so impressed.  I’ll bet they walked home and did a gay boy circle jerk to celebrate.

    These loser gang members don’t have the balls to stand up on their own.  Like dogs… they travel in packs because they’re weak.  Using their special talents… like hurting innocent people and spraying graffiti because they’re too stupid to put anything to good use.  Tell you what, MS-13, take your wetback acts home to Mexico… South America… wherever.  Nobody thinks you’re badass… you’re just stupid, weak and lazy losers.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TRMCFF4AH7LQ4D4S3UMOYOD6BY george

    It is worth pointing out that MS 13 is from Central America, and the majority of its members are illegal aliens.

  • Soldier1012010

    Punks with Guns,….Wow

  • Anonymous

    These guys are terrorists plain and simple.  We need to concentrate everything we have at home to get these guys.  ICE, FBI, National Guard, state and local police all working as a team to rid ourselves of this cancer.  No deportation.  Hard time.  Desert detention centers under tarps so you don’t need to build jails.

    If you’re illegal, commit a crime and have gang tats, go straight to jail, don’t pass go dig holes in the sand at 10 cents an hour.  No time off for good behavior, no breaks whatsoever under any circumstances.  Oh, and make their conditions in jail similar to the jails wherever they came from in the first place.For all of you racist wankers out there who are confused, these Hispanics are not all Mexican and as you can see we are getting some homegrown bangers out of this.  There are culls everywhere that come out of cultures of good people.   

  • Djsd

    the most vicious gangs are the police. and the us funded political instability in these countries which caused much of the violence that is going on now. as you reap, so shall you sew…

  • Djsd

    the most vicious gangs are the police. and the us funded political instability in these countries which caused much of the violence that is going on now. as you reap, so shall you sew…

  • Rich

    Here I thought the most vicious gang in America are the so called protectors of society. The police. They kill more people with out cause every year in America than gangs do.

  • http://twitter.com/2smoothme 2 kool

    STOP YOU LIES,OBAMA DONOT SUPPORT GANGMEMBERS

  • http://twitter.com/2smoothme 2 kool

    THE ONLY WAY TO ELIMINATE THE MEXICAN GANGMEMBERS IS TO SHIP ALL BACK TO MEXICO IN AMERICA,AND THEN DETERMINE  WHICH MEXICANS ARE VIOLENT
    ILLEGAL,WANTED.I SWEAR,THIS THE ONLY WAY.WATCH HOW THE CRIME DISSAPEAR.
    ALL OTHER RACES IN  INCARCERATION,SEND THEM BACK WHERE THEY CAME FROM
    WITH A HEFTY TICKET.THIS WOULD FREE UP SOME OF THE AMERICAN MONEY TO
    RELIEVE  AMERICA OF SOME OF ITS RECESSION MONEY.THESE GANGMEMBERS
    NEED THE LORD AND JOB FORCED UPON THEM TO MAKE MONEY TO FREE UP THAT
    NEGATIVE TIME THEY HAVE ON THEIR HANDS.THE CONSTITUTION WOULD HAVE TO
    BE AMENDED TOMAKE THIS WORK.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/N6HDYLF4XUNNISJ4SR7TY5UCVU janet

    Believe that we in the USA
     should have a isolated island in the middle of one of the oceans….instead of putting the gangs in prisons here in US.. ship them off to island…let them either learn to take care of themselves as in the BEGINNNING or perish…do not understand how we think that these animals will change after doing time….I know this sounds heartless but when you see on TV and read about the cruelty these persons do…it is hard to not wish we as a society just say we have had enough and get rid of them

  • Anonymous

     The Communists didn’t kill anyone because they didn’t believe in a god, they killed them for political reasons. The Church however has a long history of killing people for their god, or for believing in the wrong god.  If the best that you religious people can do is compare yourselves to political murderers you might want to wonder just where your god is while all of this is going on. Where was god when the Catholic Church was torturing and murdering untold numbers of people during the Inquisition ?  Where is Allah when the Taliban is throwing acid in young girls faces ? You people and your imaginary gods are the ones with the issues. Jails aren’t full of Atheists, they’re full of people who believe in gods. I feel sad for people who think that fear of some spirit equals morality. I don’t need to be scared of some god to be a moral, ethical person, how pathetic for you that you do and how puny of a mind must you have to think that morality comes from religion. Human morality long predates any of your superstitions, even social animals behave morally within their groups.. If belief in some supernatural spirit and fear of its punishment is what keeps you from behaving like a barbarian then you should be ashamed.

  • Anonymous

     The Communists didn’t kill anyone because they didn’t believe in a god, they killed them for political reasons. The Church however has a long history of killing people for their god, or for believing in the wrong god.  If the best that you religious people can do is compare yourselves to political murderers you might want to wonder just where your god is while all of this is going on. Where was god when the Catholic Church was torturing and murdering untold numbers of people during the Inquisition ?  Where is Allah when the Taliban is throwing acid in young girls faces ? You people and your imaginary gods are the ones with the issues. Jails aren’t full of Atheists, they’re full of people who believe in gods. I feel sad for people who think that fear of some spirit equals morality. I don’t need to be scared of some god to be a moral, ethical person, how pathetic for you that you do and how puny of a mind must you have to think that morality comes from religion. Human morality long predates any of your superstitions, even social animals behave morally within their groups.. If belief in some supernatural spirit and fear of its punishment is what keeps you from behaving like a barbarian then you should be ashamed.

  • Anonymous

     More drivel, I’ve been an Atheist in a foxhole and never prayed. Does fear make you change your worldview ? As for me, I operate with logic and reason.

  • oldfart

    These gangs in no way get top rating, the top ratings go to the American rednecks of which would take these gang baggers out at a moments notice when it comes down to it.

  • Solution

    (1) Make it legal to sell permits for $500 and have an open season on them and with no bag limit. They will soon become extinct and or hide like mushrooms in the dark. 
    (2) Tattoo Islam sucks and Christians rule in Farsi on their forehead and parachute them in to Yemen. Eventually gang of zero.

  • Doug

    They are minorities , the non-gentiles protect them.

  • melvin

    Jawal, what an articulate response. I think civilized thought and behavior in society is devolving around the globe–not just in the US. It seems as though every issue is being tried in the court of uninformed public opinion and mob rule is taking over.
    Thanks

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Buddy-Green/100002090624314 Buddy Green

    The only way to get rid of gangs is to take away their funding mechanism.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Buddy-Green/100002090624314 Buddy Green

    The only way to get rid of gangs is to take away their funding mechanism.

  • LUNA

    How idiotic some of these arguments. Stop the drug trade funding for instance. How can we, as a society, stop every recreational drug user from buying their illicit drugs? How can we stop every drug addict from the next purchase?  Talk is cheap!  

  • Fajing87@aol.com

    usa should go after ms13 and all gangs just like they sendtroops to middle east and take on taliban,insurgents and other terrorist organizations,rid the country of all gangs.if a good citizen pops one of them,that citizen will be grilled by prosecutors etc,those are so far removed from this stuff.Peace Tony of detroit

  • Fajing87@aol.com

    i believe all thugs in the country that wanna do drive bys,robberies with weapons etc,should be given a sidearm or rifle and dropped off in afghanistan,and anywhere the taliban is,these folk will shoot back…you dig
    Peace Tony of detroit

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ILEHNWRFVD6IHJIUJJC7NGZOMQ RAYMOND

     Jawal,
    Very well said. Americans like this guy are very comfortable and have no idea…yet. They will though.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EH7PHABE4D5ZMFH4BA4Z2XAHQU White DEVIL

    the only way to take back this country is to make it WHITE, ruled by WHITES. kill all the mud people

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EH7PHABE4D5ZMFH4BA4Z2XAHQU White DEVIL

    the only way to take back this country is to make it WHITE, ruled by WHITES. kill all the mud people

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EH7PHABE4D5ZMFH4BA4Z2XAHQU White DEVIL

    KILL THEM ALL

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_EH7PHABE4D5ZMFH4BA4Z2XAHQU White DEVIL

    KILL THEM ALL

  • Np09er

    Thats wrong MS!3 is a bunch of girls next to the JUGGALOS! I would NEVER mess with an ICP fan noooooo way in hell!

  • Smart azz Indian Boy

    Be careful you might just run into someone of color with the same mentality as yours…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1048605531 Robin Boling

    Tolerance isn’t forcing your beliefs on others “for their own good”…

  • Anonymous

    These gangs are the product of a corrupt judicial system that denied US the Right to be heard.

  • Anonymous

    These gangs are the product of a corrupt judicial system that denied US the Right to be heard.

  • TOM

    ALL    GANG   MEMBER   ARE   STUPID   AND  THEY   ALL   ARE  FROM    HELL   ,  BECAUSE  THEY   HAVE   THE  EVIL  MIND  AND   THE  DEVIL  MIND  IN    THEM     AND  THEY   GOT  NO   SOUL   EITHER     .    KRAMA  WILL    COME  BACK  TO   THE   EVIL    DOER   ,  AMEN    .  KARMA   ARE   FOR   REAL    NO  DOG   AND  CAT  CAN   GET   AWAY     WITH  IT     DOG     ACTION    ,   AMEN   .

  • TOMG

    ALL   THOSE   GANG  MEMBERS  ARE    MOSTLY   WAS   BORN   IN  THE   YEAR  OF   THE   DOG   IN   THE  CHINESE    ZODIAC    MENTION    ON    ,  AMEN   .    IN    THE  REAL    WORLD   MOST   DOG   ANIMAL    OR  WOLF    ANIMAL      ARE   LOVE   TO    GO   TOGETHER     AS   A    GROUP    TO     GO   HUNT     FOR   THE   OTHER   ANIMAL    TO   EAT    AND   THAT    ARE  THE  FACT    OF  IT     ,    MOST   GANG    MEMBERS    ARE  BORN   ON   THE  YEAR   OF  THE      DOG   YEAR     AND   NOT     THE  DRAGON   YEAR       ,  AMEN      .     THOSE  EVIL     GANG   MEMBER      GOT   NO     SOUL   IN   THEIR   OWNSELF     ANAL   EITHER       ,    BECAUSE     THEY   ALL      ARE   FROM   HELL    IN   THE   FIRST   PLACE   ,  AMEN    .   KARMA    WILL      COME    BACK  TO   THEIR    EVIL   MIND   GANG  MEMEBERS     SOONER   OR   LATER     ,   AMEN   .

  • TOMG

    REMEMBERING     NOW      THAT    THE  SUN   SOLAR  POWER   IS   ROUND   AND   THE  MOON   LUNAR  POWER  IS  ROUND  ALSO    AND    SO    DOES   THE   EARTH  PLANET     FULL     OF  KARMA    WHAT   COME  AROUND   MUST    GOING   BACK   AROUND   TO    ONESELF  ACTION    ,  MIND   AND   THOUGHT    OF  TO    GETTING   THEIR  EITHER   TO   THE     HELL     PLACE     OR  THE   HEAVENLY   PLACE    ,  AMEN   

  • TOMG

    REMEMBERING     NOW      THAT    THE  SUN   SOLAR  POWER   IS   ROUND   AND   THE  MOON   LUNAR  POWER  IS  ROUND  ALSO    AND    SO    DOES   THE   EARTH  PLANET     FULL     OF  KARMA    WHAT   COME  AROUND   MUST    GOING   BACK   AROUND   TO    ONESELF  ACTION    ,  MIND   AND   THOUGHT    OF  TO    GETTING   THEIR  EITHER   TO   THE     HELL     PLACE     OR  THE   HEAVENLY   PLACE    ,  AMEN   

  • TOMG

    LOOKING       DOWN   MOST    OF   THE     RESTAURANT   OWNER    ARE   THE  REASON  FOR  THE    GANG     MEMBERS  TO   GROW   SO   RAPIDLY    IN  THE  FIRST  PLACE  ,  AMEN    .

  • TOMG

    LOOKING       DOWN   MOST    OF   THE     RESTAURANT   OWNER    ARE   THE  REASON  FOR  THE    GANG     MEMBERS  TO   GROW   SO   RAPIDLY    IN  THE  FIRST  PLACE  ,  AMEN    .

  • TOMG

    MOST   OF   THE   RESTUARANT   ARE   THE   PLACE  TO   FEET    THOSE   GANG  MEMEBERS      IN   THEIR     OWN   ORGANIZATION     TO    HAVE    THE  DEVIL   CHANCE    TO   GROWN   SO   RAPIDLY  ,  AMEN    ,   BUT   KARMA    ARE   COMING   BACK   TO  THOSE   EVIL   MIND    GANG   MEMBERS    SOONER   OR    LATER  ,   AMEN  

  • TOMG

    MOST   RESTAURANT     ARE  FEEDING   THOSE    GANG  MEMBERS    IN   THE  FIRST  PLACE    TO   MAINTAINING   THEIR   ORGANIZATION     TO  MESS    AROUND   IN   THE  U.S.A.    LAND  OF   THE  FREE    CIVILIZATION  WORLD       AND  COUNTRY  , AMEN    .

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QMS7CUTPTIVBFZ57UBCJ5PMW2E consworstnightmare

    F—-ing mexicans,.

  • DENNIS

    the only way to get these punk kids that like drive by shootings,and making life miserble for the hard working stiff like you and me and every-one else is to ask the Govenor to declare Martial law with US TROOPS AND OR RESERVES OR NATIONAL GUARDMANS to patrol our streets and take it back,give them the order to stop and surrender or be  shot,the GANGS don’t give mercy to us then we don’t need to give them mercy,they like to make it open season on us when they randomly shoot a innocent by-stander, then let’s make it the same for them,shoot first ask questions later,that is if they are still alive,maybe the gangs will come to realize that it’s the ones who want to be gang members that it is open season on them and all the rest of their kind,let them know that it’s time to take back our streets and we are no longer going to stand by and let you get away with it,no more preaching to the LORD ALMIGHTY to help us or the Police who’s hands are tied with the laws,with saying you have the right to a attorney,BULL-SHIT take don’t give us any rights when they shoot at us or attack us cause we just happen to look like a gang member,yes people it’s time if it walks and talks like a GANG-BANGER then treat him like he wants to be treated  shoot first and then don’t ask questions shoot him again.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4X4WSN73POSHYLQSDX2HUEZGJQ Jerle

     Thank you for posting this. The most intolerant are those extreme liberals who think the world is sick because of white Christians. Ridiculous and ignorant!

    What kind of society would it be if crack and meth were legal? Even marijuana, an light drug, has its implications.

    On one hand, I agree with ending the drug war; it’s expensive, and some of the laws are too harsh. On the other hand, I don’t want to live next to drug addicts. Even if drugs were legalized, addicts would still steal and kill for their next fix.

  • Anonymous

    As soon as your idiot fvckin government decides to bomb Mexico and kill the REAL bad guys, then this will stop.

  • Bojorda1

    From El Salvador…I lived in LA 1980th’s I live in Ventura County…I heared since them that the Salvadorians gangs are the worse. Why they let them in USA!…Like the others writers said. It is time to clean our Towns.

  • Nomad1976

    Stupid people making stupid choices. Put them all in FEMA camps & let them kill eachother there.

  • Blue_surfer99

    Kill ‘em. Kill ‘em all.

  • Jim in WNC

    Apparently a few of you have no idea who the Puritans were and are repeating the modern cultural stereotypes from Menckan and others. Do a bit of research. You might be surprised.

    How to stop the gangs? It goes back, in large part, to illegal immigration. A national biometric/DNA based ID card may be a big part of the answer. Obviously there would initially be some civil liberties concerns, but the advantages would greatly outweigh those. A single card could serve a number of purposes- SSN, various permits, passport, voter registration, medical info, etc. The technology is such that the card could not be reproduced illegally. The savings from diminished illegal immigrant use of citizen taxpayer services should more than pay for the card. Is this possible? At the same time, streamline the guest worker program and legal immigration progress. 

  • Jim in WNC

    That would be H.L. Mencken — sorry.

  • Jim in WNC

    DougW – Having read a bit of Puritan literature, I don’t find any sense of the “self-righteous” that you mention. It’s just not there. To the contrary.

  • Anonymous

    I though this was an article about Obama and his Democrat lemmings!

  • Anonymous

    A sad tribal substitute for missing or dysfunctional families.    How do you fix that?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Morey-Ladini/100002015653840 Morey Ladini

    Yeah, let’s just legalize drugs. That way, all these fine gang specimens will suddenly turn to low-paying shift work and be content.

  • Lmrtnz77

    Yeah Stop all these lil white kids in the suburbs from buying their goods. NOT all gangmembers are black or mexican… they are just concentrated in small areas because of their poverty mentality..  white gangs are just as prevalent.. just more hidden cuz the news doesn’t report on white problems cuz their daddys might get offended.. check all the stats before trying to comment on the game…

  • Skydog75

    We should consider doing what Great Britian did during their “Troubles” with Ireland.  Outlaw membership in these gangs.  I believe you’ll find most are here illegally.  Deport those who are and jail those members who might be citizens.  And do so regardless of their family status (wifes, children, etc.) . Thus making membership a painful experience.

  • Skydog75

    We should consider doing what Great Britian did during their “Troubles” with Ireland.  Outlaw membership in these gangs.  I believe you’ll find most are here illegally.  Deport those who are and jail those members who might be citizens.  And do so regardless of their family status (wifes, children, etc.) . Thus making membership a painful experience.

  • Ehunt_5

    that is a good start. perhaps strict application of the law (no parole, no plea bargaining, etc) would change the attitude. If not, ship them to an island and let them fight it out – last man standing – winner gets a t-shirt. 

  • Buck Johnson

    Hang these animals,totally annihilate them before these vermin kill more innocents.Jails are overcrowded,they cannot be rehabilitated(they won’t).The law has got to protect us somehow.Only solution I see is let the military loose on these scumbags..take em’ out…

  • johnny garret

    All you dumbells blame the Christians and Christianity,why don’t you blame the gangs???They are the ones killing.Leave religion out and hang blame on these murdering scumbags…Damn! Wake up people!!

  • danos

    This will continue, because our society is more concerned about the ‘rights’ of gang members than protecting the public. These things happen because we allow them to. 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SOLKBDFCJJSW4RA6CBRFH2EEV4 Rod

     gangs are for weak people, who can`t stand on their own!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=611042065 Paul D Williams Jr

    I say develop some SF type units in the FBI and turn them loose on them! The time to stop playing nice is now!

  • BK 4 CHP

     Way to go Jawal.  You just gave him fuel to feed his fire.  Could you sound any more self righteous?  So people who happen to disagree with you are hedonist?  Talk about lashing out!  You when the prize.   The leap you made from legalizing pot to legalizing prostitution and euthanasia shows you don’t have a clue.  The war on drugs has not even slowed the flow.  It has only made drugs a bigger cash cow. The more money involved, the more blood on the ground.  I learned my point of view by having my boots on the ground fighting the war against drugs for 22 years. You cannot eliminate the flow of drugs.  You can eliminate profit through legalization.  Regulate and tax drugs just like alcohol.   Alcohol and drug abuse are social problems.  As a Christian myself, I advise that you spend less time admonishing others and more time learning how you can help.

  • Anonymous

    The last sentence at the end of page 3 is out of place.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Tooclose-Todetroit/100003621979297 Tooclose Todetroit

    set em loose in Detroit-they could only improve the place.

  • Anonymous

    All faags… each and every one.

  • Anonymous

    But don’t anyone DARE to profile these fine young men… that would be violating THEIR rights.

  • Racedaymarc

    line these wet back niggers up and shoot them all

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HUEM4YANPS2347WRRMMGVUUMB4 Wiliam C

    Why not just allow the owners of the 11 million + legally owned/purchased firearms last year alone, hit the streets ans take care of this problem. Problem is, in L.A. the gun laws are a joke as far as law abiding citizens are concerned, and don’t you think the criminals know that.  Never a greater deteramt to crime is when fed up citizens start shooting back……   This is yet another glimpse intio the idiotic thinking that if guns are taken away (from law abiding Americans) that crime gun crimes will somehow stop. It is statistically proven, in areas where gun laws are very strict, (NYC, D.C., London, England, etc, etc, etc. that crime only increases)

    If Walentin had a license to carry a firearm AND was trained in its use, there is a VERY good chance that he would be alive today.

  • Anonymous

     Your an idiot, Smae thing happened with alcohol, What are you talking about.

  • Checkman69

     But then he would have violated the MS13 right to murder innocent children and that will not be tolerated in our free and open society.
    What a sad sad society the fascist liberals have built for their children and their children’s children.

  • Sparky

    Send all the M-13 gang members back to Mexico and your problem is solved !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/24SJK44IYETDRQUDYA5TRXZMPE rich

    Second Vicious Gang: Liberals

  • Mjk0216

    The best way to end the drug war is to legalize pot.  Considering the majority of scientists and the medical professional feel it’s no worse for you than alcohol, why wouldn’t we?  Why wouldn’t we regulate it, create jobs and tax revenue, and at the same time severely decrease gang and violence?

  • hermanking

    Instead of fighting muslims in the mideast to protect jews we should wipe out thes thugs who murder Americans.

  • hermanking

    Instead of fighting muslims in the mideast to protect jews we should wipe out thes thugs who murder Americans.

  • Dr Sam_loomis

    We sent them to El Salvador years ago, this is them coming back.

  • Hooder42

    If our government can’t control the gang violence in our country that shows their priorities are definitely in the wrong order. Instead of trying to fix the problems overseas concentrate full effort on protecting the innocent citizens of America. There is no way that gangs should be running this country.

  • Joel Wischkaemper

    If only these guys would move to Pennsylvania Ave in Washington DC.

  • Jeffreybenj

    I am not a beleiver, although I once was when I was young. Your words have moved me and make complete sense. However, the blogger was saying that drugs should be legalized to cripple foreign and domestic threats. The truly pious can stay, but the hipocritical politicians who claim to be pious, but only do so to remain in power…

  • Anonymous

    And government keeps trying to disarm the public——sooner or later we will have to deal with these killers and i dont think sticks will work as weapons.

  • Terryalanus

    “An American society where Christianity is crushed and reduced to having
    no influence at all but when you need mercy where will you get it? When
    you need help will your fellow hedonists give it to you or follow your
    Darwinian creed: The weak must die. When you start to desire meaning,
    relationships and love and you will—-even the most strident of the
    athiest crusaders have admitted to that desire–you will have no where
    to turn.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    That is the stupidest diatribe I have ever read. 

    You christians can influence each other all  you want.  Leave the rest of us alone and stay out of civil matters.  Frankly your churches are so overly involved with politics these days that I feel the tax exempt status should be removed.  Holy Jeebus that could really help the national debt.  Collect all of the property taxes that rightfully should be collected.

  • Terryalanus

    No, religion is a crutch for people too weak or afraid to stand on their own.  BTW that is a paraphrased quote from Dr. Robert A. Heinlein rip……

  • Terryalanus

    Actually the end of prohibition got the mob activity out of the liquor business for the most part.  Although the gangs in the 20′s era dressed better…….People think of gang/mob activity as something new.  Apparently we did not learn from history and as it is said…..are now doomed to make the same mistake….

  • Anonymous

     The thing is that ALL should be profiled and fairly, if you’re going to do it.  White men are never suspected in anything as if they are perfect.  But they kill and rape and molest and fraud.  Those acts still lead to a loss of life or a reduction in the quality of it.

  • Anonymous

    Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy were all vicious creatures. They mutilated and destroyed their victims.  And they are only 3 names that I can mention right now.  If we look at the bullcrap that white murderers do and have done behind closed doors, people would be astonished. 

    The people who are seen as pariah in the country are the people who are profiled.  This is ok with most Americans but it sends a convoluted message about justice and whether it is obtainable for those of us, who judge as pariah as a practice.  We’re look like the pariah but are not guilty of harming this society.  This is upsetting because we are seen as pariah period thought we’ve not done anything to deserve it.

    This is what amkes this society crooked and corrupt.  If you are going to profile, profile everyone.  If you are going to fight justice, fight it for everyone.  If you are going to

  • Anonymous

     How brilliant of you?  So allow the rest of America’s cracker gangs, serial killers and rapists, white collar corporate gangs to continue their reign?  Of course, their harm to society is a little less painful and usually inconsequential to other crackers.  Right, right, sound just as it should be.

  • Anonymous

     How brilliant of you?  So allow the rest of America’s cracker gangs, serial killers and rapists, white collar corporate gangs to continue their reign?  Of course, their harm to society is a little less painful and usually inconsequential to other crackers.  Right, right, sound just as it should be.

  • Tex Gritter

    Not true at all, Sir.  I am 37 and I can remember when the Russian(communist) government was hanging Christian missionaries in Moscow sqaure.  That was about 30 years ago.  Our missionaries were forced to devise a variety of secret signs and such in order to operate. The Communist government allowed church services, but only one song could be sung. This was circumvented by the congregants using one song as a verse and one as a chorus.  Yes, the Communists DID arrest and sentence people based on their religeous conviction.  I don’t wish any of this for OUR Country.

  • Tex Gritter

    Jawal, I am sorry that I am a few weeks too late to congratulate you personally however, since this thread is still up, I will congratulate your words now.  Yes, you are right: Christianaity and the good works that arise from it are being overthrown in favor of a “survivor of the fittest” sort of mentality.  Ultimately, the world will pay for this.  When I was a schoolboy very little in the way of attrocious behavior was ever seen.  Now, this horrible behaviour is not only accepted, but to some degree even encouraged by the ugly trash that comes out of Hollywood.  Your reference to Communism reminds me of some things I read about the schools of Russia some years ago: the government-run schools would have two bubble gum machines in a room. One of these was labeled “GOD” and the other was labeled “GOVERNMENT”. The school made certain that the “GOD” machine was broken.  All this in an effort to convince the children that God doesn’t exist and that all treats come from the government.

  • Anonymous

    If you profile all, then you aren’t profiling. As a PERCENTAGE of their representation in our society, bIacks commit FAR more VIOLENT crimes – than any other segment of our society. Recognizing that FACT isn’t racist, it’s simply recognizing a FACT!!

  • Anonymous

    Arrest them and clandestinely execute them. They proliferate like rats. No other way, Start killing them.
    We’d be doing the world a huge favor. To them, life has no value. They are beyond any form of
    rehabilitation/redemption.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cliftrudeau Cliff Trudeau

      It should be open season on MS-13 Gang members.  Like rabid animals they need to be exterminated as they fall out of the protection of the U.S. Constitution  and the 2nd amendment gives true americans hunting priviledges to do so.

      You cannot deport them, You cannot reform them. But you can Terminate them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/cliftrudeau Cliff Trudeau

      It should be open season on MS-13 Gang members.  Like rabid animals they need to be exterminated as they fall out of the protection of the U.S. Constitution  and the 2nd amendment gives true americans hunting priviledges to do so.

      You cannot deport them, You cannot reform them. But you can Terminate them.

  • Anonymous

    Summery execution, stamp them out like roaches. This is how the National Socialists felt was happenning to their country and gave rise to their solution. Only then it was jews and gypsys. This isn’t the first time this has happened to a country. I see the crematoriums and mass graves again. America is not as tight as the germans, however we do have a breaking point. When that  line crosses I see mass graves and piles of corpses.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/TOBIFCXU57VBJZT2OY634GDW7Y Jay

    FUKIN WET BACKS!!!

  • Anonymous

     These worthless pieces of s_hit have been around for 4 decades.  Not a ONE of them would last 5 minutes *alone* and without a weapon.  Classic chickenchit cowards.

  • do

    and now ms-13 is joining with the zetas while the first rate second rate man in the white house approaches border security like he does solyndra and solar trust.  Islamic terrorists are like a wart that can be excised.  The drug gangs are a cancer that has metastisized and the body politic is not even aware of it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K67D6TWPDGHIFAMK2MA7HBM4BI JenniferT

    Morality can be present or absent in ALL religious faiths, as well as in people who do not believe in any deities.  There’s no such thing as “Christian Morality”, or “Islamic Morality”, or “Hedonistic Depravity”.  Only non-believers are capable of depravity and all christians are GOOD?  Really?  Care to count the little Catholic boys in therapy due to the depravity of their priests?  There is only morality or lack of it. There is basic humanity and compassion along with respect for other living creatures, and there’s evil. Evil exists in ALL faiths as well as all lack of faith.  Religion doesn’t make one person better than another, nor does it make one worse.  It is the acts you perpetrate in your life, and the way you treat others that make you a worthwhile person, or a blight on the Earth.  Yes, I DO believe that my non-christian friends are just as likely to help me if I am in need as are my christian friends.  Why?  Because I choose my friends not on what deity they worship, or don’t worship, but by the way they treat myself and others around them.

    It is people who think that only THEY are right, and only THEY are moral who are the most dangerous to the rest of humanity.  Compare the extremist christians to the gangs.  What are the similarities?  The most glaringly obvious one is intolerance for any persons other then their own members.  ”Only MY congregation of believers is right, and the rest are going to hell!” isn’t any different than, “Only MY gang members can walk through the neighborhood, and the rest are getting shot!”

    Legalization of marijuana WOULD decrease gang activity.  If it is regulated and taxed, there’s no real reason for gangs to fight over who is gonna sell it where.  Hell, people can just grow their own.  It is no more harmful than alcohol, and people home brew or make their own wine all the time.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K67D6TWPDGHIFAMK2MA7HBM4BI JenniferT

    Morality can be present or absent in ALL religious faiths, as well as in people who do not believe in any deities.  There’s no such thing as “Christian Morality”, or “Islamic Morality”, or “Hedonistic Depravity”.  Only non-believers are capable of depravity and all christians are GOOD?  Really?  Care to count the little Catholic boys in therapy due to the depravity of their priests?  There is only morality or lack of it. There is basic humanity and compassion along with respect for other living creatures, and there’s evil. Evil exists in ALL faiths as well as all lack of faith.  Religion doesn’t make one person better than another, nor does it make one worse.  It is the acts you perpetrate in your life, and the way you treat others that make you a worthwhile person, or a blight on the Earth.  Yes, I DO believe that my non-christian friends are just as likely to help me if I am in need as are my christian friends.  Why?  Because I choose my friends not on what deity they worship, or don’t worship, but by the way they treat myself and others around them.

    It is people who think that only THEY are right, and only THEY are moral who are the most dangerous to the rest of humanity.  Compare the extremist christians to the gangs.  What are the similarities?  The most glaringly obvious one is intolerance for any persons other then their own members.  ”Only MY congregation of believers is right, and the rest are going to hell!” isn’t any different than, “Only MY gang members can walk through the neighborhood, and the rest are getting shot!”

    Legalization of marijuana WOULD decrease gang activity.  If it is regulated and taxed, there’s no real reason for gangs to fight over who is gonna sell it where.  Hell, people can just grow their own.  It is no more harmful than alcohol, and people home brew or make their own wine all the time.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K67D6TWPDGHIFAMK2MA7HBM4BI JenniferT

    Morality can be present or absent in ALL religious faiths, as well as in people who do not believe in any deities.  There’s no such thing as “Christian Morality”, or “Islamic Morality”, or “Hedonistic Depravity”.  Only non-believers are capable of depravity and all christians are GOOD?  Really?  Care to count the little Catholic boys in therapy due to the depravity of their priests?  There is only morality or lack of it. There is basic humanity and compassion along with respect for other living creatures, and there’s evil. Evil exists in ALL faiths as well as all lack of faith.  Religion doesn’t make one person better than another, nor does it make one worse.  It is the acts you perpetrate in your life, and the way you treat others that make you a worthwhile person, or a blight on the Earth.  Yes, I DO believe that my non-christian friends are just as likely to help me if I am in need as are my christian friends.  Why?  Because I choose my friends not on what deity they worship, or don’t worship, but by the way they treat myself and others around them.

    It is people who think that only THEY are right, and only THEY are moral who are the most dangerous to the rest of humanity.  Compare the extremist christians to the gangs.  What are the similarities?  The most glaringly obvious one is intolerance for any persons other then their own members.  ”Only MY congregation of believers is right, and the rest are going to hell!” isn’t any different than, “Only MY gang members can walk through the neighborhood, and the rest are getting shot!”

    Legalization of marijuana WOULD decrease gang activity.  If it is regulated and taxed, there’s no real reason for gangs to fight over who is gonna sell it where.  Hell, people can just grow their own.  It is no more harmful than alcohol, and people home brew or make their own wine all the time.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K67D6TWPDGHIFAMK2MA7HBM4BI JenniferT

    Morality can be present or absent in ALL religious faiths, as well as in people who do not believe in any deities.  There’s no such thing as “Christian Morality”, or “Islamic Morality”, or “Hedonistic Depravity”.  Only non-believers are capable of depravity and all christians are GOOD?  Really?  Care to count the little Catholic boys in therapy due to the depravity of their priests?  There is only morality or lack of it. There is basic humanity and compassion along with respect for other living creatures, and there’s evil. Evil exists in ALL faiths as well as all lack of faith.  Religion doesn’t make one person better than another, nor does it make one worse.  It is the acts you perpetrate in your life, and the way you treat others that make you a worthwhile person, or a blight on the Earth.  Yes, I DO believe that my non-christian friends are just as likely to help me if I am in need as are my christian friends.  Why?  Because I choose my friends not on what deity they worship, or don’t worship, but by the way they treat myself and others around them.

    It is people who think that only THEY are right, and only THEY are moral who are the most dangerous to the rest of humanity.  Compare the extremist christians to the gangs.  What are the similarities?  The most glaringly obvious one is intolerance for any persons other then their own members.  ”Only MY congregation of believers is right, and the rest are going to hell!” isn’t any different than, “Only MY gang members can walk through the neighborhood, and the rest are getting shot!”

    Legalization of marijuana WOULD decrease gang activity.  If it is regulated and taxed, there’s no real reason for gangs to fight over who is gonna sell it where.  Hell, people can just grow their own.  It is no more harmful than alcohol, and people home brew or make their own wine all the time.  

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_K67D6TWPDGHIFAMK2MA7HBM4BI JenniferT

    Morality can be present or absent in ALL religious faiths, as well as in people who do not believe in any deities.  There’s no such thing as “Christian Morality”, or “Islamic Morality”, or “Hedonistic Depravity”.  Only non-believers are capable of depravity and all christians are GOOD?  Really?  Care to count the little Catholic boys in therapy due to the depravity of their priests?  There is only morality or lack of it. There is basic humanity and compassion along with respect for other living creatures, and there’s evil. Evil exists in ALL faiths as well as all lack of faith.  Religion doesn’t make one person better than another, nor does it make one worse.  It is the acts you perpetrate in your life, and the way you treat others that make you a worthwhile person, or a blight on the Earth.  Yes, I DO believe that my non-christian friends are just as likely to help me if I am in need as are my christian friends.  Why?  Because I choose my friends not on what deity they worship, or don’t worship, but by the way they treat myself and others around them.

    It is people who think that only THEY are right, and only THEY are moral who are the most dangerous to the rest of humanity.  Compare the extremist christians to the gangs.  What are the similarities?  The most glaringly obvious one is intolerance for any persons other then their own members.  ”Only MY congregation of believers is right, and the rest are going to hell!” isn’t any different than, “Only MY gang members can walk through the neighborhood, and the rest are getting shot!”

    Legalization of marijuana WOULD decrease gang activity.  If it is regulated and taxed, there’s no real reason for gangs to fight over who is gonna sell it where.  Hell, people can just grow their own.  It is no more harmful than alcohol, and people home brew or make their own wine all the time.  

  • Anonymous

    The presumption is that whites are guiltless. That is bs. In every group, if you profile it should be those in each race prone to crime. The presumption with whites is that there are none in their race. Again bs.

  • Dgas56

     MS13 is a very powerful gang that uses minors as a rule . They are safe from a lot of laws +  searchs under juvenal protections. They use minor girls to transport drugs.The ones that survive the jailings and murders move up in the hiarchy and make more + more money from underlings as they move up. I have a cure but it is illegal and could be considered persicution. But I would simply plant a lead pill in every teen flipping or wearing a gang sign/tat. As a parent I would be devistated to lose my little “darling” child w an attitude to a shooting. Legal or illegal. but eventually we ARE going to have a gang war on our hands. Might as well thin the herd and plant fear of our own NOW.  The only thing these punks know is violence and fear of anyone/thing stronger. Just My Experianced Opinion, but it is MINE and I stand by it as a former outlaw biker.  Legalizing drugs may stem the tide for a bit but there are all kinds of illegal activities that can and will be exploited by these thugs.

  • Johnb

    This is a bold, invigorating move forward for Igoogle. BRILLIANT!

  • http://twitter.com/EyeTweaks aleon lore

    These fonts are horrible what editor allowed this gobbly gook to be published?  

    Keep it simple this font simply sucks.

  • http://twitter.com/EyeTweaks aleon lore

    These fonts are horrible what editor allowed this gobbly gook to be published?  

    Keep it simple this font simply sucks.

  • http://twitter.com/frank95054 Legatus legionis

    America has the RICO Act.  Lets fine tune it to include members of gangs.  Then, lock them up.  Its better to pay for their incarceration than to allow them freedom to kill, rape, and thrive.  I wonder how many of these members are here illegally.  Law and order has never been a priority of the Democrats.  Change is needed, so remember to vote no when it comes to Progressive policies that do nothing more than destroy the morality of this country with its statists policies.  

  • Robert Davis

    I removed a Salvatruche to mexico today.  He had all the tats all around his head, with his gangs name across his forehead.  Came out of claimed Hollywood, Ca. Humm!

  • Anonymous

    The existence of these gangs is just one more reason that the US should deport all illegals and then come down with a hammer on the remaining members of these gangs and any other established gang, regardless of ethnicity or origin.   And, when I say come down with a hammer, I mean treat these punks like the trash they are and k ill them if that’s what it takes.

  • Freddie

    we are seeing the worst from the flood of illegal aliens from failed countries like el salvador

  • Freddie

    we are seeing the worst from the flood of illegal aliens from failed countries like el salvador

  • Kaoges

    These gangs members are not real men, they stand behind guns!   If there were to fight one-on-one without backup or weapons I am sure that they would be the losers!  Parents need to become more involved in their childrens’ lives, it is not for the city or the police to raise these children!

  • kim North

    Open the border let them all in. Hand them guns and give them a map to social services already!! Why does our Government keep trying to pretend it is against this illegal invasion! 

  • kim North

    Open the border let them all in. Hand them guns and give them a map to social services already!! Why does our Government keep trying to pretend it is against this illegal invasion! 

  • Almond

    Thank you very much, jawalbaxter, I needed that response today. Almond

  • Almond

    Thank you very much, jawalbaxter, I needed that response today. Almond

  • Guest

    How hard is it to just kill them?  It’s not a catch and release thing; get one, kill it.  Sell licenses to allow us to hunt them down and eliminate them.  Gangs persist because the laws against them are ineffective.  Make them permanent, make it open season on them,

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Art-Slagter/100000234688845 Art Slagter

    tony, yeah but used to be some ms13 had more combat experience than the kids volunteering for afghanistan. simply, a number of original ms13 came out of the fmln guerrilla org.

    right now i’d be more concerned about the gulf cartel [and sometimes partners, the zetas] than ms 13.